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Magic TV: Extra – Grapeshot Elves on a Budget


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Bryan Lue sits down with Luis Scott-Vargas in a bonus episode of the “Magic TV” weekly series. Bryan stopped by Superstars Game Center to purchase a couple singles and build a budget version of the Grapeshot Elves deck for his tournament at school the next day. His timing was perfect as his favorite Pro Tour player, LSV, was about to arrive and film an episode of Magic TV. Bryan enthusiastically accepted the offer to guest host and ask his questions on camera. Thanks for your help, Bryan. You did an excellent job. (Mashi better be nervous!)

36 thoughts on “Magic TV: Extra – Grapeshot Elves on a Budget”

  1. If you need llanowar elves 5-8, look to Fyndhorn Elves, since only deep shadow and boreal druid were mentioned.

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  3. Nice change of pace for this feature!

    Fyndhorn Elves trumps Elves of Deep Shadow in mono-green Vintage Elves, yes?

  4. Yeah, we talked about Fyndhorn Elves afterwards, on the suggestion of one of the other people in the store. I didn’t think of them at the time, but they do definitely work!

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  6. I actually went with the boreal druid, because it was a lot cheaper than the fyndhorn elves, and they worked well with the skullclamps.

    BTW, I won the tournament with this deck.

  7. Nice face lifting, Mashi!

    jk, good work Lue.
    For what I ave experienced, playing a budget list in any older format is pretty much suicide without a sideboard, unless you can build the deck explicitly to beat your local meta.

    If you aren’t playing with it yet, I would add something like 2 Quirion Rangers instead of a land, since they allow you pretty stupid plays with a 1 land hand and are significantly better once you are in the combo.

    I think posting the list here would be very interesting for the watchers.

  8. Elves is sometimes played in online Classic, and this would be somewhat similar to budget vintage. The main engines are Glimpse, Skullclamp, and Earthcraft.

    Earthcraft is kind of expensive, but I don’t think he should even bother without Glimpse as it’s nothing too pricey.

  9. When this was an option for extended I used tendrils of agony, why isn’t used as a finisher that often?

  10. also, earthcraft is restricted in vintage I believe. but in a vintage list, fyndhorn elves and quirion ranger are important

  11. Distant Melody for card draw, if you’re looking for budget.

    Pauper Elves splashes blue for this, naming elves, drawing at least five usually. Very strong.

  12. Just want to say that despite the little bits of awkwardness in this video, it was sweet, and I (and I’m sure others) would love to see more like this. It’s really cool to have a pro like LSV be able to sit down with a kid who wants to build sideboard-less budget Vintage decks.

    In fact it would be pretty sweet to see some videos on other casual stuff too, though I’m not sure how much casual Magic pros actually play (EDH?). But anyway, great video, fun deck! Skullclamp is awesome. =)

  13. I would add the Anger Survival of the fittest package and some either Stomping Grounds or Taiga. This would require you to run Fetchlands, but as another casual player I know that most people pick these up anyways.

    Priest of Titania is pretty insane as well.

  14. Also, Earthcraft turns all of your elves into hasty mana producers. I’ve seen people really go off with this and a skullclamp or glimpse of nature. It basically acts as sentinel and heritage druid combo in one card.

  15. ilsv! do it! I bet justin.tv would hook you up with a backpack/headcam and everything if you communicated with them. that’d be interesting

  16. It’s nice to see a change of content from highly competitive to semi-competitive or even casual. Magic budget is not an issue that many people deal with, and it’s nice that it is brought up in a video here.

    The main problem I had was not with the actual content, but how it was presented. Brian, I felt you had a lot of trouble articulating your thoughts and constantly filled it with Um’s and Uh’s. Rather than fill your conversation full of this garbage, you’re better off with just pausing; in both scenarios, you are stalling, but using Um’s and Uh’s just shows you have no idea what you’re talking about, while a pause displays that you are actually thinking.

  17. @K

    It’s about being comfortability in front of the camera. He did an awesome job doing something he wasn’t familiar doing so you’re not being fair to him.

    Congrats Brian for winning the event! And don’t listen to people like this basement dweller.

    @MrMath

    This sounds disturbing! Hahaha!

  18. Actually, I paused a lot because I made up most of these questions of the spot, I played without a sideboard because this was mostly casual, so everyone else also didn’t have sideboards.

    Should I post the list?

  19. No sb? Come on, 3 Viridian Shaman, 4 Relic of Progenitus, and since you have Jitte 4 of them. Just fill up with Forests if you feel like not any more but there are tons of efficient cheap SB cards.

  20. Okay, here it is:

    4 Heritage Druid
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    4 Llanowar Elves
    4 Elvish Visionary
    4 Wirewood Hivemaster
    4 Wirewood Symbiote
    4 Boreal Druid (subbing in for birchlore)
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Viridian Shaman
    1 Regal Force
    1 Birchlore Rangers (having a tough time getting these)
    4 Skullclamp
    3 Summoner’s Pact
    2 Manamorphose (subing in for birchlore
    1 Glimpse of Nature
    1 Grapeshot
    15 Forest
    1 Rootbound Crag

  21. Here is another rather cheap Elves list, you might find interesting:
    [creatures 38]
    4 Birchlore Rangers
    4 Fyndhorn Elves: twice the number of Llanowars
    4 Quirion Ranger: lets you keep a 1 lander + helps you not fizzle with the combo
    4 Heritage Druid
    4 Llanowar Elves
    1 Mirror Entity: without white sources other than the Bircholore Ranger, this might seem a bit random at first, but you can also Chord for him, it is the infinite damage/storm combo when you can bounce a Symbiote with his own abillity and a fast clock even when you can’t grapeshot your opponent out.
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    4 Sylvan Messenger: draws you 2,5 elves on average
    4 Viridian Shaman: I expect that you are confronted with a lot of powerful artifacts in vintage, so you can’t have enough of these guys. This+Symbiote improves your matchup against Affinity / Staxx or other artifact heavy decks significantly
    1 Viridian Zealot: 1 out against enchantments can’t hurt
    4 Wirewood Symbiote
    instant [1]
    1 Chord of Calling: less good in this list without hivemaster
    sorcery [9]
    3 Glimpse of Nature
    1 Grapeshot
    4 Land Grant: hey look: cheap fetchlands
    1 Yawgmoth’s Will: Gives you a lot of reach in the lategame
    artifact [2]
    2 Skullclamp
    land [10]
    10 Forest

  22. So, i went and picked up the cards for this list here:

    Elves, suggested by Matt Elias

    4 Wooded Foothills
    3 Forest
    3 Windswept Heath
    3 Bayou
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Gaea's Cradle
    4 Birchlore Rangers
    4 Fyndhorn Elves
    4 Heritage Druid
    4 Llanowar Elves
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    3 Wirewood Symbiote
    1 Regal Force
    1 Eternal Witness
    4 Quirion Ranger
    1 Viridian Shaman
    4 Skullclamp
    4 Glimpse of Nature
    1 Grapeshot
    4 Summoner’s Pact
    1 Fastbond

    Sideboard:
    4 Seal of Primordium
    4 Thoughtseize
    2 Xantid Swarm
    3 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Pithing Needle

    I have been goldfishing this list a lot and its really fast. Does anyone have any suggestions on what i should add or take out?

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